By: David Dark
Sensational lie? How did amberglow's buttercoated pill feel sliding down your throat, trout? Woof.
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: "Saddam did so have WMD's, chemical weapons at least. I saw it on TV." Mission accomplished.
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It was SARIN ! No, it was DANGEROUS STUFF ! Err, it was ammonia and bleach.... Umm, actually it was Diet Coke. As with dogs, the media will woof down up anything wrapped in a sufficiently sensational...
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Rumsfeld says it wasn't necessarily sarin This happens with every "discovery" of possible wmds.
View ArticleBy: Ignatius J. Reilly
I don't know that this crowd could be convinced that Iraq had WMD even if inspectors found an underground warehouse with pallets and pallets of 55-gallon drums filled with VX neatly labeled "Saddam's...
View ArticleBy: chaz
reading this thread it occurs to me that if the Bush admin had been clear about why they wanted to go into Iraq from the start, the debate wouldn't be this polarized/poisoned. It's one thing to debate...
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clavs is right about the binary form and the mixing of the chemicals. It's my understanding that both chemicals were present in the shell, but they didn't combine properly upon detonation because the...
View ArticleBy: crasspastor
see how foldy is outraged, see him point fingers at the U.S. and no one else. See how he distorts and bends. His graps of histories horror shows make him white with ribald chuckles and blanched...
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clavdis - sorry but your car dealer metaphor doesn't work but your repo man idea's a funny one: if the invasion of Iraq was a repo man; that accepts that Bush IS responsible and is sending thugs in to...
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clavdivs - you found your tongue. My last comment, though, was a toss-off. You needn't have bothered. Great historical context in that last comment.
View ArticleBy: clevershark
Well, one != stockpile. And (0 deaths & 2 slight injuries) != WMD, unless the "M" stands for "mild". Besides, the Pentagon is still reviewing the evidence as to whether it really was sarin or not.
View ArticleBy: clavdivs
see how foldy is outraged, see him point fingers at the U.S. and no one else. See how he distorts and bends. His graps of histories horror shows make him white with ribald chuckles and blanched...
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or would he break into the guys house and tear it up screaming "WHERE'S THE CAR WHERE'S THE CAR" - and insist the car is a weapon and not claim knowledge of the car? naw, that is what the repo man is...
View ArticleBy: moonbiter
thomcatspike: Ignored it because, if this was a full true story there would have been more info on it, everywhere. I agree, it would be everywhere. Furthermore, if the story you link to was true it...
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possession of cleaning products. His joke is fetid ha, i'm sorry but your use (mis-use?) of the word fetid actually makes for a pretty good pun!
View ArticleBy: Peter H
But we have foldy saying the U.S. sold him the stuff so we are responsible as is the car dealer how sells a car to someone who kills and or is killed in or by said car. Wow, the logic. ah ... but the...
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Do you not believe a Sarin shell was found [?] Ebay has proven there's one of anything out to the right buyer
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Can I declare a "war on terror" against myself, the bleach, the dog piss, and the dog? no, call yourself an Ill-trained pet owner for not cleaning up the piss first with a clean paper towel. What kind...
View ArticleBy: thomcatspike
this device, an Iraqi binary weapon, probably didn't have sarin in it at all, and the alerts were to cyclohexanol. Why? My brother said they had false chemical alerts constantly during the first...
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moonbiter, found this while back, see date, which was a highly ranked internet page by visitys that day. Ignored it because, if this was a full true story there would have been more info on it,...
View ArticleBy: moonbiter
To the credit of MeFi's small contingent of warbangers, I have noted none of them have come here to equating a couple of chem shells to a massive and ongoing WMD program. Sadly, not every hawk is so...
View ArticleBy: Peter H
To those accustomed to thinking and planning on a global scale, we are as ants. Ah, gotcha. Thank you. Yes. I could buy that. There's a parable about the pig and the ant. If a pig tries to eat an ant,...
View ArticleBy: troutfishing
moonbiter - I guess I'm a terrorist too. When my dog started pissing in the bathroom, sometimes I would use bleach to clean up the piss, well.... The bleach interacted with the ammonia. So, I...
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Peter H - Or, to put if differently : To those accustomed to thinking and planning on a global scale, we are as ants.
View ArticleBy: moonbiter
You know, I have some ammonia and bleach in my kitchen too. I hope the DoD doesn't find out.
View ArticleBy: fold_and_mutilate
Damn. Anyone have the latest mass casualty figures from this terrible weapon of mass destruction incident....information now seems so very scanty after that first breathless Fox News report. Must be...
View ArticleBy: Dipsomaniac
Seems that, so far, what we have is *two* shells, one containing something that, on preliminary examination, *looks* like sarin (I've only seen field test results, which also went off when the Marines...
View ArticleBy: Peter H
troutfishing - ha, you think i don't know that? CIA in ski masks and shitty handicam recordings is the new planted weapon of masked distraction.
View ArticleBy: johnny vagabond
Is the Sarin Claim Bogus? "Shorter version: this device, an Iraqi binary weapon, probably didn't have sarin in it at all, and the alerts were to cyclohexanol. Why? 1. bc the insurgent deployed the...
View ArticleBy: Peter H
Man, I actually had an office pool bet that the U.S. would have planted something like this months ago. I mean they had those anthrax envelopes in the mail weeks after 9/11 Bush is slipping.
View ArticleBy: Perigee
"Anybody who wants to harm American troops will be found and brought to justice. There are some that feel like if they attack us that we may decide to leave prematurely. They don't understand what they...
View ArticleBy: edgeways
In addition, of course, this has not been confirmed. With only a field test to go on it is still to early to say sarin was there at all... stay tuned
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By: troutfishing
Pop Quiz - Which is the general consensus of most experts on Iraq, Al Qaeda, and terrorism: 1) Either Iraq or Saddam Hussein were directly involved in the September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks or gave...
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Ah yes. : Lies Americans Continue to believe Iraq supported Al Qaeda, had WMD's"Study Finds Widespread Misperceptions on Iraq Highly Related to Support for War. Misperceptions Vary Widely Depending on...
View ArticleBy: VulcanMike
mefi/33145: Winner, most inflammatory and likely to be disproven by the time you're reading this comment post of the day.
View ArticleBy: JeffK
You're right destro. That's nuts. Actually CNN.com is also leading with the sarin story, but with the somewhat less inflammatory headline: "Artillery round in Iraq emits sarin gas, U.S. military says".
View ArticleBy: destro
Look at every major newspaper right now and compare to Fox. Every headline is "Head of Iraqi Governing Council Killed in Iraq". Fox: "Chemical Weapons Found" Considering how many times Fox has posted...
View ArticleBy: mcsweetie
Doesn't anybody find it odd that nobody seems to have noticed that this story originates with Fox News? I mean, doesn't it seem at all interesting that this is the same Fox News that gets talking...
View ArticleBy: Ptrin
Thought 1: Is anybody else picturing the shell-detonating insurgents sitting around their remote control going, "What the fuck? Baathist piece of shit didn't even blow up right!" Thought 2: Illiterate...
View ArticleBy: donfactor
Doesn't anybody find it odd that nobody seems to have noticed that this story originates with Fox News? I mean, doesn't it seem at all interesting that this is the same Fox News that gets talking...
View ArticleBy: tcp
Doesn't sarin have a very short shelf life? The two components that actually create sarin (clavdivs mentioned them) are mixed after the detonation, so I guess the grenades are relatively durable as...
View ArticleBy: mrgrimm
[Gen. Mark Kimmet] said he believed that insurgents who rigged the artillery shell as a bomb didn't know it contained the nerve agent, and that the dispersal of the nerve agent from such a rigged...
View ArticleBy: clavdivs
"paging Mr. Dark, Mr. Dark...please kick the shit outta this thread, Thank you"Doesn't sarin have a very short shelf life? I do not know...lets try google shall we? "Iraq adopted the "binary" method of...
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